Jeremy Evans, centre, at his meeting with David Farrant and Patsy Langley (fourth from right) at the Olde Gatehouse Occult Convention Oct 2012 (c) NLPI
Just before Christmas 2012, I gave an interview for Jeremy Evans who ran a Website called Paranormal Lives. I, in fact, first met Jeremy the previous October, at The Old Gatehouse pub in Highgate where I’d been giving a filmed Talk on ghosts and the Highgate ‘vampire’, and he asked me afterwards if I would agree to be interviewed for his Website. I published this two part interview with myself here in June last year
This interview was published Paranormal Lives in two parts beginning early in January 2013 and titled simply “Interview with David Farrant”. .
Also present at this October Talk was medium Patsy Langley giving her own Talk on the Highgate Vampire. Patsy had published a book on the Highgate case in 2007, “The Highgate Vampire Casebook”, but Jeremy was especially interested to interview her for his Website to learn a little more about her background and those factors in her life that had led her to being trained as a medium. She was interviewed by a colleague of Jeremy’s, Larry Ferguson, who went to interview Patsy at her home in Feltham and this was accordingly published on Paranormal Lives.
As these interviews had been received quite well on that Website, I decided to release them again on The Human Touch, for the benefit of any who might have missed their original publication. They are, after all, really timeless in origin and some shrouded past events may perhaps become clearer if viewed with a more up to date perspective.
Anyway enjoy everyone. Part 2 of Patsy’s interview will follow in a couple of days. Just as I had been influenced by my mother’s deep involvement in Spiritualism; so Patsy as well, may have had her path shaped through her own involvement in Spiritualism.
Patricia Langley is a medium, paranormal investigator and a part-time author. She also trains new mediums, runs circles and offers spiritual advice. Patricia is a member of the British Psychic and Occult Society, and the Spiritualists’ National Union. Outside of her life in the paranormal, she has studied geology and earth sciences and works full-time as an assistant accountant.
In the first of two interviews, Larry Ferguson speaks to Patricia about the origins of her interest in the paranormal.
Q. When did you first become interested in the paranormal?
Well I can’t say exactly when, but I know that I was a very small child. When I was probably about two years old we lived in a big old house in Brentford, and I’m sure there was something in that house. I used to see odd white forms on the stairs and I was quite frightened by it.
I was always writing stories at school about ghosts and phantoms. And if there were spooky films on television, I would always be interested in watching them even though I was young. This has carried on through the years and as I’ve got older the more interested I’ve become.
Q. Is the paranormal just about ghosts, or is it more than that?
It’s more than that. Much of the time it’s the sensing of others – it’s the sensing of other people, living people. It’s about living sentient beings creating an energy that another sentient being can certainly pick up on, and it doesn’t have to be humans either. Lots of animals, especially insects, pick up on this, and one finds this when there’s lots of earth energy.
Being trained as a geologist, I know that before an earthquake or volcanic eruption happens there’s lots of paranormal phenomena experienced beforehand – animals behaving in odd ways, people seeing and sensing things before an eruption or a tsunami. And that can be construed as paranormal where it’s beyond the normal. In normal daily life they wouldn’t experience it.
Q. For somebody to experience ghosts, do you have to believe in them, the paranormal or the supernatural? Do you have to in some way be predisposed to that?
It helps, but not necessarily. Some hardened sceptics I’ve known who would not countenance belief in ghosts or the paranormal whatsoever have had experiences that they just cannot explain. It certainly helps if you have an open mind.
Q. Is the paranormal more powerful than religion – or religious belief?
It depends on how powerful one’s religious belief is. Speaking as a medium, as a Christian who believes in God, I would say that certainly if it came down on one side or the other, the sensing of spirits and the seeing of ghosts – the paranormal – would trump anyone’s religion.
Q. You train mediums, run circles and offer spiritual advice – tell us a bit about that.
Some people come and see mediums if there’s some kind of crisis in their lives. I would never offer a spiritual reading to someone who is vulnerable. I would ask them to get some counselling, work through that first and then come back. If they still want to have some spiritual advice I would normally start with a reading, but I’d’d ask them why they want a reading, what they think they will get out of it.
I tell them that there is no guarantee of success that the person they wish to speak to, if they are bereaved for example, that they will actually get through to them in the spirit world. A reading with a medium is and should be a total spiritual experience so that whole spiritual energy envelops the medium, the sitter and the spirits coming through.
Training mediums, that’s a bit more difficult. It depends on why someone wants to be a medium. I’ve had people come in my circle and say I want to be famous, I want to end up on the television, I want to be like Derek Acorah. That’s totally the wrong reason. Most people will come and say they want to be a medium because they’ve had an experience – they’ve either been seeing ghosts, want some direction or want to know more about it.
We would start off with meditation, getting to know that person, followed by weekly meetings. Sometimes that person will go on to work with the general public, sometimes they won’t. It all depends on why they want to be a medium. Sometimes they want to help people; sometimes they just want it for themselves.
Q. And what was involved in your own training to become a medium?
The training involves deep thinking, deep breathing. Meditation forms a lot of being a medium – getting vibration right, practising, lots and lots of practising when you are reaching out to the spirit world. I would sit in a restaurant and look at a person and try to pick up their guide and what the guide was telling me about the person. We were told to do lots and lots of leg work like that to sharpen our skills.
Q. Does this take a number of years?
It depends on the person. Some people can do it in a couple of years, some people can do it in six months, others can take many years.
Coming soon: Patsy Langley’s guide to investigating the paranormal